Aside from the Obama-Clinton tussle for Democratic Nominee, the other big new on the net and the influential Youtube.com is about the Church of Oprah Winfrey. The reactions – pros and cons – showed how people view their religion against another, or the traditionalists against the New Age religionists.
I was not really able to view all videos related to Oprah’s Church and to Eckhart Tolle, who, like Oprah, has long been advocating for the Religion of the NEW or the AWAKENING.
Here is an interesting quote from the Oprah.com forum:
This is an interesting post.I have a quick view I would like to share.It seems that any significant event in history that really changed the world was met with alot of resistence.Change can be frightening to many people because the fear of the unknown(what will happen when/if it changes),or the fear of losing the known(what were used to) seem to be rooted into our conditioning.This info which has been around for awhile has never before been presented to the world before at this magnitude.There really is a change thats taking place right now that HUGE in the spiritual sense,which can be hidden in the worldly sense.Tolles word “The pain body”,which he descibes as the emotional aspect of the ego,applys here if you look at it.A change like this is a threat to established belief systems because now there is the danger that the beliefs,which aren’t rooted in reality at all,may be exposed for what they are”thought forms.”Just ideas.The pain body(I’m using Tolles word)can only live on thought forms/Ideas or otherwise it wouldn’t exist.I’m not trying to cause more fear here.Theres nothing to fear.Its very interesting when you look at it a little deeper.I try not to oppose any heavy egos and treat all as friends.Love wipes away all insanity and illusions.I’m very grateful for this event and hope everyone has a safe,peacful journney into discovering themselves.
Then there is also another same group which call themselves ECKANCAR.
I advise you that you go through these links below with caution and open mind.
I mean, if you are sure of your faith, then go right ahead.
OPRAH VIDS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JW4LLwkgmqA&feature=bz302
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT6w6k3vwuw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4YnJDII9Sc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cOAhbBhDxY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pslo04hB1Rk&feature=related
OPRAH ARTICLES:
http://www.oprah.com/community/thread/49937
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/09/AR2005050901015.html
http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Church_of_Oprah – a Parody
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oprah
http://www.lifeway.com/lwc/article_main_page/0,1703,A%253D161438%2526M%253D200373,00.html
ECKHART TOLLE:
http://www.eckharttolle.com/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meister_Eckhart
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eckhart_Tolle
http://www.eckhartsociety.org/meister.htm
ECKANKAR
http://www.eckankar.org/PL_stories/wheel.html
Musings of Don Kihote 
April 15, 2008 at 11:38 am
Good morning.
Check out the following sites for some sound discussion on the Eckhart Tolle versus the Biblical Christianity topic….
http://prolepticlife.wordpress.com/
http://bcooper.wordpress.com/
Bruce
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April 17, 2008 at 4:00 am
Pray for Oprah!
She has been captured, and is in the process of getting others captured by a, not so smooth talking demon.
I’ll put it like this.
If she can’t except all of God, and the writings of His prophets, and apostles who walked with Jesus Christ, but she can accept every word from this person’s book as if it is biblical, she is in deep trouble.
She is not the first, and won’t be the last. A lot of churches do the exact same thing. They decide which parts of the Bible they accept, and which parts they dismiss to please their own desires. This is what she has done, like many others. Created her own little “Golden Calf”.
Apparently she doesn’t like the fact that God will not accept demons being glorified on behalf of all that He has created.
She got mad because God is a jealous God. She thinks God should not get mad about demons trying to take claim to all He made. God is the only spirit who has the right to be jealous, because He made everything, including the disobedient angels, and humans. No one else has this right because no one else made anything.
She left God when God sent her to get Tina Turner. Instead, Tina Turner got her. Tina dismissed Christ, and talked Oprah into accepting the lie, that she did not need Christ to get salvation. These two souls jumped into the arms of death at the same time, because Tina refused Christ for the last time, and Oprah left Christ for the first time.
God gave me a dream that she would almost go completely down, but would rise again before complete death. I hope this means that she will repent in the end, before it is too late.
This was the first day that I have heard of this “Church of Opray”, but I am not surprised according to what God had already told me about her fall.
In fact like many others God had, me to write a letter about five or six years ago telling her to not mention the name of Christ Jesus in the company of the demons gods as if they are equal to Christ. I told her that it is better for her not to mention the name of Christ Jesus at all, if she gives equal measure to false gods. I don’t know if she read the letter, but the all I had to do was obey God, and He would do the rest. I think what I did basically was made as a symbol of God warning her in many ways by many people.
According to her, there are no false gods, because she thinks they are just another way to God.
Pray for your enemies, and those who persecute you.
Right now she is an enemy to God and His people, and she brings persecution to the souls of those Christians whom she has confused.
In the old testament God wiped out a lot of cities who found their own way to worship, instead of the way He said to worship. So she must disagree with almost all of the old testaments.
This is why we should fear God as He requires, because He will rock this world, if it does not glorify Him, and love all of Him, because He made it.
Who can check the hand of God? Certainly, not Oprah or anyone else.
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April 18, 2008 at 2:44 am
Shes just another false prophet that millions blindly follow.
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October 6, 2008 at 8:18 am
Dear Catalina and Scavenger,
Only those who follow an adopted (not their own) belief system which requires their faithfullness and allegiance without question and the suspension of reason are those who are truly blind and unawakened. Only when one asks, seeks and knocks at the door of the kingdom of heaven within them will the truth of their divine origin become known to them. Without truly personal intuitive spiritual experiences from and a profound feeling of oneness with the Source (The One Consciousness which is God) can there be a true realization of your purpose and how life can be lived more abundantly. Truth is a pathless journey for it is the journey itself which has brought us into physical form for the lessons we are to learn here.
Do not worry about the paths that others may take to realize their purpose, for yours is the only one assigned to you alone. “(We) are here to enable the divine purpose of the universe to unfold. That is how important (we) are.” Oprah with Tolle’s guidance and anyone else she finds helpful to finding and realizing her path are of no concern to you.
It is your religion and belief which DEMANDS that you FOLLOW its dictates unquestioningly or your god will “rock your world”. Oprah and Tolle only give you a suggested path which you may find helpful (or not) in your personal realization of more love, more knowledge and more wisdom in actualizing your purpose and mission here.
There are far too many churches and far too little truth already. Neither Oprah nor Tolle wish to start another. Indeed, it is the failure of these churches to fulfill their FOLLOWERS spiritual needs which gives rise to the popularity of Tolle’s teachings, which he offers from his own soul to yours at no cost (his books are in your library)…and with no requirements or demands for your allegiance, ONLY a promise of more abundant life if you so choose by your own divine Free Will.
Your Brother in Spirit,
Wayne
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October 7, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Whether she believes the God of the Bible or not, it will boil into one big decision and realization in the end…Jesus Christ died for us because He loved us and He wants us to share eternal life with Him. Giving praise and worship to the one true God…Its up to us if we want heaven or hell after this lifetime.
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November 16, 2008 at 8:03 am
Well, May, not exactly. We are already eternal spiritual beings and there is only ONE place that we go to after death, or should I say between our lives. Please stay with me….
Knowledge of your spiritual connection to Creation and to the Creative Conscious energy and intelligence that created All That Is, is essential to realizing who you are and why you are here in the physical form you are energizing. We are beginning to learn a great deal about the so-called “afterlife” through a number of “extra-ordinary” means and experiences. Faith in something more than this often referred to life as a “vail of tears” has been necessary and very comforting to those of us who still do not “know” who we are and why we are here.
Religious “belief” and “faith” have guided many remarkable souls in this life and have uplifted many who have had lives with little hope of escaping the sins of others or of themselves. We thankfully are now entering a time on this planet when we can move beyond mere faith, dispell some of the old myths and superstitions inherently part of ancient religious texts and gain a new perspective based on real knowledge regarding the most important questions we can ask ourselves: Who am I and why am I here?
When we observe or witness, from the vantage point of our True Self beyond mind, the insidious nature of our false mind ego-self, the pretender to our identity, we can begin the process of re-identification with that which we are-WE ARE OUR SOUL.
The following is the latest understanding of our true spiritual nature and identity based upon 35 years of research and over 7000 hypnotic regressions with some 2000 subjects (Dr. Michael Newton’s discovery that we all have memories of our life between lives reported in his two volume work-Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls) in which his subjects report their activities as discarnate souls. Here are the core findings and spiritual principals, quoted here verbatim from his Life Between Lives: Hypnotherapy for Spiritual Regression, based solely upon what his subjects have reported to him and he characterizes as the “The Way of Souls” (the words in parentheses are mine):
“The soul cannot be defined because it has no limits that are perceived about its creation. The most consistent reports of its demonstrated essence is that the soul represents intelligent energy which is immortal and manifested by vibrational waves of light and color.
All human beings have one soul that remains attached to its chosen physical body until death. Souls play a part in the selection of their next physical body (usually only 3 choices are offered) during their reincarnation cycles. The soul typically joins its physical body after conception between the fourth month and birth (important implications for the debate as to when life begins and for the issue of abortion. Some have reported that whether a baby will reach full term is known ahead of time and the soul is advised of this before selection).
Each soul has a unique immortal character. When conjoined with a human brain, this ego character is melded with the emotional temperament, or human ego, of that body to produce a single but temporary personality for one lifetime. This is what is meant by the duality of our mind (so here on Earth the True Self/Soul is the witness and real identity beyond the temporary ego mind of the body).
While soul memory may be hidden from the level of conscious awareness through amnesia, thought patterns of the soul influence the human brain to induce motivations for certain actions.
Souls reincarnate with human beings for countless lifetimes to advance through levels of development by addressing karmic tasks from former lifetimes. Souls grow in knowledge and wisdom through this learning process while pondering their thoughts and deeds in past lives with peers under the direction of teachers (There are many other assignments given advanced souls. Becoming a teacher or guide is only one option. What is reported without contradiction is that each of us will eventually progress beyond the need to reincarnate and take up these duties in an endless succession. There is still much that is unknown about the more advanced hierarchy that is present in the spirit world of our birth, for his subjects have obviously not reached those levels of development as yet.)
Our planet is one of an incalculable number of worlds that serve as training schools for the advancement of souls. During temporary physical incarnations on Earth, souls are provided an opportunity to advance through trial and error to accumulate wisdom. Humans are not bound to a predetermined existence. Various possibilities and probabilities arising from karmic influences and prior soul contracts are subject to the free will of the soul.
Earth is a place of great beauty and joy but also harbors ignorance, hate, and suffering that are man-made combined with natural planetary disasters over which we have little control. Coping with these positive and negative elements on Earth is by design. This planet is a testing ground for souls rather that being a place of evil, demonic influence from outside our world. Spiritual malevolence does not exist within the divine order of love and compassion that comprises our spiritual origins.
Personal enlightenment emanates from within each of us and endows humans with the capability to reach our own divine power without intermediaries.
At the moment of physical death the soul returns to the spirit world, the source of its creation (sometimes we may stay here for awhile longer if we feel a strong need to do so. It is always our decision). Since part of a soul’s energy essence has never left the spirit world during incarnation, the returning soul rejoins with that essence of itself. Thus, spiritual learning never ceases for the soul. The spirit world also offers souls the opportunity for rest and reflection between lives (those who have partaken of particularly egregious acts on earth, however, immediately become aware of their failure and inability to control their human body and temperament and are voluntarily separated from returning to their cluster group of peers. No one as yet has reported the existence of anything akin to a lower world of fire, i.e. Hell. But, there are areas separate from our normal spaces of operation in which various purification processes are used to cleanse the soul of “dark” or negative energy, and can be quite a long isolation for some of the worst cases of violent offenders. But, even they are overseen by highly trained and loving caretakers during this voluntary separation. Eventually most are returned to their group or in some cases reassigned to another. In rare cases those who have demonstrated a complete inability to mediate their actions or possess any semblance of compassion for others e.g. true sociopaths or psychopaths, may not be allowed to incarnate on Earth again or are deemed unsuitable for earth incarnation).
Souls appear to be members of specific spirit cluster groups to whom they have been assigned since their creation. The teachers of each group are the personal spirit guides of members of that group. Members of these groups reincarnate with the soul and assume meaningful roles during a soul’s life on earth.
Rather than being defined as a place of ultimate non-action, or nirvana, the spirit world appears to be a space of soul transition for souls who evolve into higher energy forms with capabilities for creation of animate and inanimate objects. The soul’s energy itself has been created by a higher source. The spirit world has an area of influence which is undefined except that it includes our universe and nearby dimensions.
No earthly religious deities are seen in the spirit world by returning souls. A soul’s closest connection with the divine is with their personal spirit guide and members of a council of benevolent counselors who monitor the affairs of each soul. Souls from earth feel and sense the presence of a god-like Oversoul or Source emanating from above the wise beings who make up individual councils.
The spirit world is composed of highly advanced non-reincarnation soul specialists who regulate the work of the souls in their care. When incarnating souls develop to higher levels of wisdom and performance themselves, they will cease to incarnate and take their place among these specialists, who will assist the still-incarnating souls. Soul specialists apparently are selected by motivation, talent, and performance.
The ultimate goal of all souls appears to be the desire to seek and find perfection, and finally conjoin with the Source who created them.”
If you read the above with an open mind and contemplate the repercussions and implications for a whole range of religious ideologies and theologies still being practiced and believed, you cannot help but come away with a mixture of tremendous hope for mankind and a deep sadness at the millennia of tragic death and misery directly caused by our spiritual ignorance. The striking fact of how inconsequential religious belief itself is treated (actually ignored completely as to whether one had a successful life), particularly dogmatic creeds and various religious idolatry, practices and observances, unless they were the motivation or cause for some harmful or negative actions, is just one of the major revelations of his study. In other words, as most of us with a moral and ethical progressive worldview would surely agree, if our religious/spiritual beliefs help to foster love, compassion, tolerance, peace, harmony, forgiveness together with service to others and these are demonstrated/actualized to the best of our ability, it makes no difference what our ideological or religious beliefs or tenets, creed or other rituals or practices are that we profess. Only our deeds are considered, not what religion or holy book we avow allegiance to- special points given to those who treat everyone with equanimity regardless of their human status as a unique spiritual being of the One Source. As Above, so below. We are not differentiated in the Spirit World so we must presume that it is desired that we bring that which is of our divine home into this one.
What is your personal truth as revealed through you own intuition, insight, conscience and creativity. That is what will add to the joy of life and creation. The One Unitary Consciousness which is God does not request nor want our praise or worship, just our Self-Realization and Self-Actualization…of His Will for us.
I hope this new “knowledge” will bring you more abundance and joy as it has for me.
My Sincerest Regards,
Wayne R. Wohler
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January 22, 2009 at 6:08 pm
Hi Wayne,
I appreciate your message, and thank you for sharing same.
Quote: The One Unitary Consciousness which is God does not request nor want our praise or worship, just Self-Realization and Self-Actualization….of His Will for us.
I fully agree and add God’s unconditional love for all.
Let us all be a pure mirror without any distortions.
Kind regards.
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January 8, 2010 at 7:27 am
oprah will tremble before God at the end..
She will know the truth, and it will set her free..
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